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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Warplane Art => Topic started by: No.1 on February 11, 2012, 10:33:58 AM

Title: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 11, 2012, 10:33:58 AM

This will not be easy at all  :-kr  :-wall  :-help

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: santynus on February 11, 2012, 12:16:49 PM

really nice subject to do No.1 ;)  :-wave

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 11, 2012, 12:25:44 PM

And hard in same time :(

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: santynus on February 11, 2012, 12:31:40 PM

do you have enough information about this aircraft?

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 11, 2012, 01:34:20 PM

I miss frame diagrams, only have basic blueprints copy and some over hundred of images. Just completed selection of images for work, they shown all surface details but will be hard in some cases to find precise position.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 11, 2012, 03:02:20 PM

I set up basic shapes... much time is sent on images analyze before any point is made.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 11, 2012, 03:18:57 PM

Interesting bird! Go forward mate! :-clap :-flo

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: santynus on February 12, 2012, 09:03:22 AM

do you think that the book "PBM Mariner in Action" can help?  ;)

cheers  :-wave

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 12, 2012, 10:07:19 AM

I have it mate, thank you :-ok

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Nico Braas on February 12, 2012, 11:50:53 AM

This is the right stuff: Dutch MLD colours!
Just for fun at 1500 pixels width..........

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 12, 2012, 11:53:24 AM

Radar above is interesting, I will add also this option for illustration.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 12, 2012, 12:59:24 PM

Bitter fight... panels will be so hard to do and I will need few days to complete only panels.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 12, 2012, 04:36:31 PM

 :-dal :-dal :-dal

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 12, 2012, 10:07:14 PM

Start work with rivets...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 13, 2012, 01:08:23 AM

 :-ok

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2012, 08:52:48 AM

Still fight with rivets  :-wall

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 13, 2012, 11:00:52 AM

Huge machine!!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2012, 11:23:19 AM

Yes, really big one with many small details on its construction (this will be subject of following work on profile layout). Now the rivets are completed and will go to full adopt to version I plan to do, there is variation even with types with same designations.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 13, 2012, 12:04:50 PM

Glad to see that you finish rivets!! :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2012, 01:38:05 PM

Now work on shadows, decide to skip small details in the moment, this will be add later. What is not visible in this image is that I have split and separated crew cockpit transparencies from gun portion transparencies, it is now better for set up in future art work.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 13, 2012, 04:15:40 PM

Good job!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2012, 05:32:17 PM

Thank you :)) Progress on drop shadows and gun turrets...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 13, 2012, 05:41:09 PM

Now i can see fast progress! :-tri

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2012, 09:42:55 PM

And again slow progress  :-dal

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Second Air Force on February 14, 2012, 12:04:38 AM

Great progress!

It's interesting that you are doing the PBM-5A version first, as this happens to be the only intact version still in existence (at least above water). The survivor is being slowly restored at Pima Air Museum in Tucson, Arizona.

The Netherlands ended up with almost half of the entire production of the amphibious version, 15 of the 36 built (and 4 others converted later from true seaplanes).

Can't wait to see the final product, and thanks too to Nico for the photo!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 14, 2012, 09:33:39 AM

Thanks for info mate  :-clap This four converted samples, how they differ from original with wheels?

From my side few more updates...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 14, 2012, 03:40:57 PM

Great job! :)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 14, 2012, 09:11:31 PM

First one :)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Second Air Force on February 15, 2012, 12:44:39 AM

Quote from: No.1 on February 14, 2012, 09:33:39 AM

Thanks for info mate  :-clap This four converted samples, how they differ from original with wheels?

I don't have any exact information on the four conversions, No.1, but I'd assume they looked much like the production amphibians.

I really must go through my files to find a couple of pictures I took of the lone survivor in 1989. It looks much better today than it did then!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 15, 2012, 01:34:18 AM

Looks excellent!! :-clap :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Second Air Force on February 15, 2012, 03:17:24 AM

Aha! I found my photos taken of the last PBM-5A in 1989. These were taken at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson, Arizona. Sorry about the picture quality. The airplane has been updated a lot since these were taken.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/PimaMariner2-89.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/PimaMariner0012-89.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 15, 2012, 03:27:07 AM

Wow! Beautiful images! ;) Real honor to be on same forum as you,and with all of you on the same forum. :-obey :-obey

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 15, 2012, 06:06:53 AM

Thank you friends :-ok

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: lauhof on February 15, 2012, 09:17:04 AM

Quote from: No.1 on February 14, 2012, 09:11:31 PM

First one :)

Very very good Nr.1!

Lauhof

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 15, 2012, 09:54:23 AM

Thank you :)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: santynus on February 15, 2012, 09:46:57 PM

Nice work No.1  :-ok :-clap and very interesting photos Second Air Force :-ok :-wave

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 15, 2012, 09:58:02 PM

Thank you mate :)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 17, 2012, 09:20:00 AM

One more for our pleasure  :-razz

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: lauhof on February 17, 2012, 10:40:26 AM

splendid! :-salut

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: santynus on February 17, 2012, 01:18:51 PM

nice  :-ok :-clap :-wave

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 17, 2012, 01:19:52 PM

Thank you :-ok

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 17, 2012, 01:36:39 PM

This one is also excellent!! :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 17, 2012, 01:42:12 PM

:))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 13, 2012, 09:21:28 AM

Art is going on but in classic way this time :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on March 13, 2012, 09:43:10 AM

 :-tri Extra!! :-jump :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: g-1reaper on March 15, 2012, 12:12:38 AM

Quote from: Second Air Force on February 15, 2012, 12:44:39 AM

I don't have any exact information on the four conversions, No.1, but I'd assume they looked much like the production amphibians.

You'll never find the information - rest assured, there were NO conversions of four planes, just the prototype and further production run of 36 samples.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Second Air Force on March 15, 2012, 03:29:40 PM

I wondered about the "conversions" when I read that information. I've got a very old U.S. Military Aircraft reference book that mentions this idea but without Bureau Numbers or other evidence. Thanks for clarifying this!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2012, 12:07:36 PM

I continue today work on painting and here you are steps... Basic shapes are painted ;)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2012, 01:46:51 PM

Toning down and shading over

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2012, 04:07:36 PM

More progress on shadows :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2012, 05:39:44 PM

Work on shadows and details continue...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Nico Braas on March 17, 2012, 06:30:19 PM

That is a very aggresive looking Mariner!!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2012, 06:32:20 PM

Thank you Nico :) Now it get some more sharp details including engine interior. But it is become dark for taking images and I will left this for tomorrow. Hope it will be very soon completed :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on March 18, 2012, 12:32:51 AM

Beautiful! :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 18, 2012, 07:05:20 AM

Thank you :)) Two more steps ;)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 18, 2012, 07:41:14 AM

Very close to complete...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 18, 2012, 08:02:00 AM

Completed  :-tri

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on March 18, 2012, 12:59:29 PM

 :-obey :-obey :-obey :-clap
Wonderful!! :-eek

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 18, 2012, 01:12:38 PM

Thank you :) I know, I spent whole two days to make it...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on March 18, 2012, 01:45:32 PM

 :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 18, 2012, 07:46:37 PM

Optional use...

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: lauhof on March 18, 2012, 08:01:55 PM

Excellent! :-obey

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on March 18, 2012, 10:16:08 PM

Hah! I love it! :-love :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: g-1reaper on March 20, 2012, 12:40:15 AM

I LOVE that composition!!!!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 20, 2012, 05:47:49 AM

:))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: 0viking0 on March 20, 2012, 08:57:08 PM

Nice one so far

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 20, 2012, 09:12:47 PM

Thank you :)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Ernie on March 26, 2012, 04:23:23 AM

Awesome painting No.1, I truly admire your artistic ability!
Ernie

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on March 26, 2012, 07:00:06 AM

Thank you mate :-ok

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 09, 2012, 10:43:02 PM

One new layout and oldest version, PBM-1, commanders plane (indicated by red engine cowling)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Nico Braas on April 09, 2012, 11:09:05 PM

Front cover is really great, but pls realise that Glenn is spelled with double 'nn'!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on April 09, 2012, 11:14:07 PM

Great,great!!! I like it much!! :-clap :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 10, 2012, 06:46:30 AM

Nico- will add 'n', sorry :)

Thank you friends :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: lauhof on April 10, 2012, 08:55:28 AM

Great indeed!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 10, 2012, 09:05:36 AM

Thank you :)

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Second Air Force on April 12, 2012, 01:41:50 AM

Very nice to see the early version!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 12, 2012, 01:53:39 PM

First at all corrected first profile which have some big errors... and two new :))

Now question- I am looking for images and completed info of Mariners who used pin up art, any sources?

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on April 12, 2012, 02:08:38 PM

Great job!! :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 13, 2012, 11:51:08 AM

Thank you mate :-ok If I do any of the subject in the attach, I will be very happy  :-tri

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 14, 2012, 10:52:24 AM

One more sample :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on April 14, 2012, 12:17:33 PM

One more great profil!! :-clap :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: lauhof on April 14, 2012, 01:12:04 PM

Great profiles!!! :-obey

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 14, 2012, 01:19:17 PM

Thank you and very soon one small but cute publication will be out :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on April 14, 2012, 01:30:04 PM

Look great!! :-clap :-clap :-tri

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: lauhof on April 14, 2012, 07:11:54 PM

Congratulations! :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Ernie on April 15, 2012, 12:09:08 PM

Awesome!! :-ok Looks like a very nice book! Interesting as I did not know of any that carried nose art like that.
Ernie

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 15, 2012, 12:22:20 PM

Thanks :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Nico Braas on April 15, 2012, 12:22:51 PM

We hope book will be published late spring/early summer! Publisher will be 'Lanasta' in the Netherlands. See http://www.lanasta.com/ where the book is already announced. Price will be Euro 16.95.

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on April 15, 2012, 12:36:49 PM

Great! Can't wait! :-tri :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Second Air Force on April 15, 2012, 03:22:56 PM

Great news!

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on April 15, 2012, 10:30:27 PM

Book is completed :) Now it remain to polish it, check out for possible errors and tomorrow I send material to print. Few days rest and then go for Hawker Hunter and after that... Bf109?

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on May 27, 2012, 06:48:34 AM

And the review:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2012/05/26/warplane-01-martin-mariner/

:))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on May 27, 2012, 09:47:06 AM

 :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 19, 2013, 03:39:52 PM

Small update :))

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: Sall on February 19, 2013, 10:49:52 PM

This is one more great profile in this topic!! :-clap :-clap

Title: Re: Martin PBM Mariner
Post by: No.1 on February 20, 2013, 06:40:43 AM

Thank you :-ok