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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Second Air Force on July 15, 2011, 08:09:38 PM

Title: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 15, 2011, 08:09:38 PM
As I was searching for other projects in storage I ran across this bedraggled Ryan PT-21/STM. I'll do another restoration project on this as time permits.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7529.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7530.jpg)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Nico Braas on July 15, 2011, 09:14:59 PM
Is this the old Testor kit? I have built it as float version as used in the Netherlands East Indies!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on July 15, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
It is beautiful as well it have in many cases highly polished skin ;)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Sall on July 15, 2011, 10:01:23 PM
Yea.. This will be one more great restoration! :-tri
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Profa on July 15, 2011, 10:15:30 PM
Have the same thing in my stash, although in 1/72. :-love that bird, but don't know when I'm going to do it...
Whenever, it's definitely going to be in that polished/yellow "cammo"  :-jump
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: draken35 on July 15, 2011, 10:18:05 PM
Sympathic airplane... :)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 16, 2011, 07:08:12 AM
Is this the old Testor kit? I have built it as float version as used in the Netherlands East Indies!

The thing that prodded me to find this old model in the shed was when I rediscovered the floats in my spares boxes. I'm  most likely going to do a Netherlands ship in aluminum finish.
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 18, 2011, 07:45:14 AM
Stripping the yellow paint (VERY thick coats when I sprayed it originally) was no fun. I'm just glad this is a small airplane or I might have given up on the idea. Not much progress, just reassembled the tailfeathers and engine and test-fit to the original floats that I'd saved all those years ago. I never knew why I kept those pontoons, but now they're back where they were designed to go. Next will be some priming and filling, then a spray of aluminum and some rigging.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7533.jpg)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on July 18, 2011, 08:07:58 AM
There is also some brake fluid which can strip the paint but you did good job :-ok
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 18, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
I tried a bit of everything, from oven cleaner to brake fluid to acetone/lacquer thinner/alcohol mixed. The big problem was that I didn't know how to paint yellow back in those days and put on many coats to get coverage. Thank goodness I didn't build many yellow airplanes!

Scott
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Nico Braas on July 18, 2011, 04:38:22 PM
Removing old paint without damaging the plastic can be done by soaking in Caustic Soda solution.Of course, safety precautions should be taken: avoid all contact and wear gloves when handling the product. At contact with skin flush immediately with plenty of water. If in eyes, flush extensively with water and get medical attention!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on July 18, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
I did not know that Nico, thank you :-ok
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 18, 2011, 04:50:33 PM
I'll add caustic soda to my arsenal of stripping agents! Thank you, Nico.
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Nico Braas on July 18, 2011, 05:01:52 PM
This is the old Testor kit I built many years ago. The 'seascape' came with the kit!!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on July 18, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
Even in 1/48 scale this is small kit ;)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 18, 2011, 05:36:32 PM
I can't find my seascape base but I know it is in a box somewhere here. That is great looking, Nico. Perhaps I'll do the camouflaged version since you've done one in aluminum.

I can't find the little beaching wheels, but they were not too great if I recall. I will have to search about for a photo of the beaching gear the Dutch used if I can't find my water-base.
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: draken35 on July 18, 2011, 05:48:00 PM
Nice work anyway...
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on July 20, 2011, 07:07:33 PM
Primer applied and more work needed, but it's looking better.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7541.jpg)

Nico, a question.. do you know what color the top surfaces would have been on the camouflaged Ryans? All I've found is olive drab, but I would have thought the paint would be locally applied overseas. There doesn't seem to be much other than that photo you posted of these little birds in camo. I also am wondering what the beaching gear would look like in the real world. As research subjects go, this little gem is pretty tough!

Scott
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Nico Braas on July 20, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
As far as I am aware the Ryans kept their bare metal finish even after the outbreak of the hostilities.
See attached print of the wrecked S-19. Dornier Do-24 on background has camo, but STM not though this is land-version. Japanese forces captured a number of N.E.I. STM's and it seems they were not camouflaged at all before the Japanese applied a dark green scheme! Some STM's were still used after the war in private hands. Maybe a nice challenge to use Australian civil scheme, although I have never seen it.
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: draken35 on July 20, 2011, 09:17:05 PM
Nice!!!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Tweety on March 03, 2013, 07:03:04 PM
Happy colors  :-razz
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on March 03, 2013, 11:48:11 PM
Thanks for bringing this thread back to the front page, Tweety. The model has not had any work done to it since July of 2011 and you've reminded me that I need to finish it!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on March 03, 2014, 06:11:16 AM
Two years and seven months later.......I've gotten back to work on the STM! I've decided on the particular airplane to represent and I'm going forward again. First I finished sanding and filling seams and applied a bit of primer, then a coat of Jongblad for the top. The float bottoms then got some black to represent the anti-fouling paint used on the originals.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/Ryanpainted003_zpsd8bf8efe.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/Ryanpainted003_zpsd8bf8efe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on March 03, 2014, 07:18:23 AM
Great, I almost forget this build :))
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on March 03, 2014, 04:48:08 PM
This poor little kit has been sitting inside a plastic bag nestled between kit boxes for a long time! Every so often I would almost bring it out but only got serious last Friday.
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Nico Braas on March 03, 2014, 05:01:46 PM
Here is an original Ryan works picture, taken in the United States.
It shows the land version!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on March 03, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Is there any Dutch samples with floats?
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Nico Braas on March 03, 2014, 06:40:03 PM
KNIL/ML had some 60 Ryans on its inventory.
KNIL only used land version; MLD used both.
Some 24 MLD Ryans must have been fitted with floats.
Known example is S-11; which was also the subject of the old Testor 1:48 kit!!
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on March 03, 2014, 06:42:18 PM
So it is covered with plastic kit too, nice to hear ;)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on March 03, 2014, 08:00:10 PM
Yes, and photos exist of S-54 on floats--the subject of this build......
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: modellius on March 04, 2014, 10:33:30 PM
very nice build, very long  :-green but very nice !
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Second Air Force on March 10, 2014, 05:51:21 PM
Thanks, modellius!

I finished this one up last night to make room on the bench for my new MiG project. This is sort of a restoration/old build rather than a really nice model. I just slapped some paint on the floats I built all those years ago, same with the airplane. I really like the Netherlands East Indies aircraft and this little Ryan will fit in nicely with the Buffalo and Curtisses I've already built.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/RyanFinished001_zps7e0b2310.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/RyanFinished001_zps7e0b2310.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/RyanFinished009_zps6cb65d6f.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/RyanFinished009_zps6cb65d6f.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/RyanFinished003_zps016287ed.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/RyanFinished003_zps016287ed.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/RyanFinished005_zps454031a5.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/RyanFinished005_zps454031a5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: No.1 on March 10, 2014, 06:58:23 PM
I like it, very unusual :-ok
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: draken35 on March 20, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Ryan ST Series
Post by: Tweety on April 08, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
I am resting my eyes on it . Green , my favorite  :-jump :-jump :-jump :-jump