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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Second Air Force on December 10, 2012, 03:47:50 AM

Title: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 10, 2012, 03:47:50 AM
Now that I've found the source for decals, it's time to start my 1/48 Me 262 prototype. I'll be building PC+UC, the third machine built and first to fly with turbine power only.

The beautiful Tamiya kit will be the basis for this conversion:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1098.jpg)

It's actually a shame to cut up this wonderful kit that comes with a full gun bay and so many other fine details. Most of the fine parts will end up in the spares bin and everything I use will be modified in some way or other.

The first item on the agenda is moving the landing gear openings in the wing. The V-3 was equipped with conventional landing gear so the mains were located much further forward than the tricycle version. It took a bit of filing to fit the gear doors and then they were securely glued in place. Next was an application of filler:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1093.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1099.jpg)

Second item tackled was the beginning of modification to the engine nacelles. The very early machines had quite different cowlings. This entailed carefully filing away the fillet fairing on each nacelle half where they meet the lower wing. Also more filing and sanding to remove the aft tailcone fairing and filler in the turbine section cooling vents. This photo is poor but shows the beginnings of these modifications next to an untouched half:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1100.jpg)

More updates as things move forward...... ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 10, 2012, 04:13:15 AM
Great one mate :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 10, 2012, 01:06:48 PM
This will be excellent!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 10, 2012, 04:36:15 PM
Thank you friends! :-flo

Next step after sanding the center section was to lay out the location of new landing gear openings. These dimensions I took from a set of Arthur Bentley drawings I've had for twenty years or more. (I've been planning to build a tailwheel 262 for a  l o n g  time! :-wise)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1114.jpg)

After fine-tuning the new lines the next thing was to cut open the gear wells. I was careful to leave the center "spine" between the two openings to provide a little extra strength to the center section during all the modifications. The new gear doors will affix to this bar during final assembly:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1115.jpg)

Just for my own benefit I then dry-fitted the wing and fuselage. On the left wing between the engine and fuselage you can see a black mark where the leading edge will soon be modified:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1116.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 10, 2012, 05:03:07 PM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 10, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
Okay, a few more minutes were available between chores, and I was inspired to continue, so here are more wing-mod photos.......

First up is the dismembering of the right leading edge. First I cut out the rounded portions on an angle and set them aside. Then another angled cut was made in the wing panels so as to remove the needed plastic:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1117.jpg)

Then is was a fairly simple matter to file and trim the new joint to achieve a correct sweepback (or lack of it, actually) by laying the wing on my blueprint. Next the leading edges were glued in place and test fitting could start:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1119.jpg)

Now another issue comes along, removing the fairing on the fuselage halves. In the first photo you see the excess fairing material that would have mated with the swept wing. In the second photo I've carefully filed and sanded this material away to mate with the new wing position. Once all the modifications are complete this will be final sanded and rescribed to represent the fairing seam:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1118.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1120.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 10, 2012, 08:08:36 PM
Great job!! :-clap I like it!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 12, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
Thanks, Sall!

A bit more progress while having morning coffee, this time with landing gear internal structure:

 First was to fabricate the sides of the strut well from styrene sheet and strip. Easy enough since this is a simple box with a few stiffeners. Also I added the attaching bracket for the retract actuator and the upper strut trunnion pivot where the strut will attach later:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1121.jpg)

After scratching these items together, another fit-check. I really like the interior detail provided by Tamiya, accurately representing the cockpit tub and fuselage stringers and formers.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1123.jpg)

After this was all adjusted and fitted I sprayed the interior of the wing with RLM 02. Not too long now and the wing panels can be assembled:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1124.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 12, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
Gooooooooooood :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 12, 2012, 11:23:44 PM
I like this a lot!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 13, 2012, 08:23:19 PM
A small modification had to be accomplished on the four flaps. The prototype machines had flap track covers that were fixed to the wing upper surface. On the production machines (and this kit) the flap-to-wing joint is a straight line, while on the V-3 there are two cutouts on each flap. This was easy enough to replicate by filling the panel lines at the track covers and then scribing the covers onto the flap surface. These are visible and you can see a little of the pink putty where the panel lines were removed:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1128.jpg)

Next will be similar changes to the rudder and elevators, in that case to remove the mass-balances of the production ships.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 13, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
Good attention to the details :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 14, 2012, 05:51:26 PM
More little changes, firstly on the aileron trim tabs. These were located at the very inboard end of the aileron on the prototypes and moved outboard a small amount during production. Simply a little filler on part of the surface and rescribing fixes this. While waiting for the filler to dry I cut out the skins for each landing gear door segment and filled the gun ports and fairings on the fuselage panels.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1129_zps40bf509c.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 14, 2012, 06:11:35 PM
Are you going to make structure inside landing gear doors?
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 14, 2012, 06:18:15 PM
Yes, pretty much as Messerschmitt built the originals, with a stiffening structure on the inside.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 14, 2012, 07:17:44 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 14, 2012, 08:38:11 PM
Here is a photo of the beginnings of interior detail of the doors. I'm using both half-round Evergreen strip and different thicknesses of sheet styrene to achieve the stiffening structure.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1132_zps26ac7dd7.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 14, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
:-ok Great!!!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: memitus on December 14, 2012, 10:24:15 PM
Woow!! Very interesting the way you are doing this conversion, simply great!! I follow you!!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 15, 2012, 04:46:59 PM
Great job mateee!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Ernie on December 16, 2012, 04:32:11 AM
Very nice scratchbuilding / kitbashing again Scott, you are doing a great job!
Ernie
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 16, 2012, 05:39:13 AM
Thanks, everyone. :-flo I intend to finish this conversion sooner than the two B 17 projects......... :-red

All of the flight control surface changes are now done on the wings. One last coat of primer to highlight the faults on engine nacelles, upper nose cover, wings, and the landing gear doors:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1133_zpsc38c12d7.jpg)

Then I located and made the cutout for the tailwheel. While researching this project I learned that the tailwheel and doors of the first four Me 262s were sourced from the Me 410.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1135_zps303a6277.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 16, 2012, 05:44:55 AM
Shape in progress ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on December 16, 2012, 12:02:45 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 16, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
Great!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 17, 2012, 05:50:03 AM
More work moving forward toward closing the fuselage halves, hopefully to occur this week. First off I fabricated the new tailwheel strut and retraction actuator. This was done with a bit of aluminum tubing and several pieces of Scale Aircraft Conversions white-metal landing gear parts. Also, take notice that Tamiya included internal structure all throughout the fuselage even to include the tailcone area:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1136_zpsc1036f98.jpg)

Next was to spray the interior of the cockpit tub and other parts RLM 66, followed by painting the interior of the entire fuselage and underside of the tub in RLM 02. Later 262s had bare aluminum in many of the internal areas but this prototype would surely have followed the early Luftwaffe painting orders:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1139_zps86cc9d03.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1140_zpsf79aec8d.jpg)

After the paint had dried sufficiently I began to close up the forward fuselage. First the cartridge ejection chutes were closed up in the two "cheek" panels, then these were attached. The last step here (until the fuselage halves are glued together) was to trim the nose gear doors a tiny bit and CA glue them in place. These fit pretty nicely and will need only a small amount of filler to make them disappear:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1141_zps9566b5d9.jpg)

Also, I broke down today and ordered an Eduard PE set for the instrument panel and seat harness :-ok, so the progress may slow until this arrives.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 17, 2012, 06:52:29 AM
Eduard details will give additional power to build :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on December 17, 2012, 08:01:02 AM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 17, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
 :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 17, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
Thanks y'all!

Yes, No.1, as this project started I was going to make my own seatbelts and use decals for instrument panel faces. The more I thought about the whole conversion I decided to call on Eduard for the panel and belts.

I've moved back to the engine nacelles, this time working on the exhaust sections. Firstly I decided to remove some material from each Zwiebel (inner cone) as my photos of the V3 show the cone retracted most of the way in all photos. To those who may not know, this cone moved into and out of the exhaust pipe to control the flow of exhaust gases. So, it was simple to saw off a bit of each Zwiebel and then install them to the turbine. The second photo is a "before and after" of how this works:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1145_zps261a5aa6.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1146_zpse962232f.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 17, 2012, 08:42:46 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 18, 2012, 04:36:14 PM
Something "modern-day" to add to this talk of the Zwiebel on the Jumo 004---I usually work on jet engines at my job, and I nicknamed the exhaust cone "the onion" many years ago. I did so because of my research on the Jumo and BMW turbine engines of WWII and their name for this component. Several of us now use "the onion" when talking about this part of the engine and others often have a puzzled look :-think on their faces when they hear us!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 18, 2012, 04:40:01 PM
Onion is interesting term :))
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 18, 2012, 04:49:28 PM
I don't know if it was a BMW or Junkers employee that gave the tailcone that name, or if it was someone else, but it does resemble one!

Okay, now I have a question for all you model builders--have you ever been awakened in the night with an idea? Early this morning I woke up realizing that I have no idea how I'm going to build the canopy for this project.......! :-wall :-wall :-wall All three sections are quite different from the production version and I hadn't really thought about this issue. I reckon I'll build a form and vacuform the parts.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 19, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
Forgetting about the canopy problem for a while, the tailpipes were installed and faired in on both nacelles. Next some primer and fine-tuning before placing on the wings:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1151_zps9a1d0c92.jpg)

The Eduard PE set arrived yesterday, very rapid shipment from Squadron Mail Order :-ok. I quickly built-up the instrument panel and added some very thin plexiglas for the instrument glass:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1148_zps9b3d6f54.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1150_zps41b071e4.jpg)

Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 19, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Cockpit will look great mate :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 19, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
Yes, a nice addition.

Notice that this PE set was designed for the HobbyBoss kit, but it works well with the Tamiya parts. Eduard makes a great comprehensive airframe set for the Tamiya model but I wouldn't be able to use many elements on this V-3, so I picked the cockpit-only set you see here.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 19, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
Great!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 20, 2012, 06:32:58 PM
More cockpit elements are in place. The side panels were a bit more of a challenge to adapt to the Tamiya parts but they still work very well with some trimming. Next will be to wire the instruments on the front side of the panel as this will be partly visible when finished.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1156_zps94fe9274.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1157_zps8c084912.jpg)

Eduard certainly makes detailing the cockpit more fulfilling! :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 20, 2012, 06:37:22 PM
This is wonderful :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 20, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
It is fun to build when the kit and accessories are both top-quality!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 21, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
On to the engine inlets.

The Versuchs airplanes had very early experimental Jumo 004 engines (in fact, the two on V-3 were the first airworthy examples) that have subtle differences from the production model. The most evident difference is the inlet center-cone that housed the Reidel starting motor. On V-3 this is shaped quite more bluntly on the forward end and also has no starter cord handgrip. So, back to the trusty Unimat lathe and a pair of new covers are fabricated from aluminum stock:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1159_zps510f3140.jpg)

Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 21, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
Unimat perform greatly as I see (actually craftsman who work on it :)) ) and great info about this inlet details :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 22, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
 :-clap :-clap
Great job!! Can't wait more!! :-jump
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 22, 2012, 11:28:47 PM
Here is a little more, Sall.

Both engine inlet assemblies have been finished and are ready for mounting on the nacelles:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1161_zps1b33b41d.jpg)

Next was to upgrade the seat with the beautiful Eduard PE seatbelt set:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1162_zps5f819579.jpg)

Seat installed into the cockpit tub:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1168_zps2f617823.jpg)

Then on to enhancing the area in front of the instrument panel with appropriate wiring and instrument tubing. This will be visible through the windscreen when the model is finished. Also the wiring was added in the fuselage halves:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1170_zps06b5932e.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 22, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
Great work mate :) So, next step is fuselage parts assembly :))
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 23, 2012, 02:13:46 AM
Great work mate :) So, next step is fuselage parts assembly :))

Well, not yet exactly. First I'm going to tape the fuselage halves together and figure out the windscreen and aft canopy enclosure. I have some ideas :-think :-think about this and will most likely vacuform the clear parts. After getting complete satisfaction with fit of the canopy bits I'll add the cockpit--it will be cleaner that way.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 23, 2012, 06:24:08 AM
The transparencies are starting to come into focus, so to speak. The first few Me 262s had older-style enclosures with wrap around one-piece windscreens. The opening portion is a multi pane design. The only part of the kit glass that can be used is the aft fixed segment, and this also must be modified.

To start this I spent several hours in my clear spares box and various kits that I thought might give me some inspiration. I finally settled on an Otaki F4U Corsair windscreen. This is a bit too tall but the slope of the windscreen and general shape are just what is needed. The first step in this conversion was to cut off the kit windscreen from the segment of fuselage decking it is molded to. While I first thought this would make the conversion harder, I now realize that Tamiya did me a favor by making this fuselage/windscreen in one piece. The Corsair windshield was then trimmed to the general shape needed and then was tacked to the clear turtledeck section. The gap is a result of the kit windscreen being longer than the wraparound style and this will be filled with styrene to give the proper fit. As this process continues I may have to sacrifice a second Otaki windshield to provide a perfect fit, but this one may turn out as needed:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1173_zpsc1a6e0f1.jpg)

Next was to trim the rear segment so that the forward frame is vertical. The standard 262 part is sloped aft quite a lot. Then more digging in the spares bin for the opening segment. This has much work to be done to it yet, but things are falling into place enough to do a fit-check and profile check:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1174_zps068af173.jpg)

Lots of work yet to do, but at least there is now the general shape needed.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 23, 2012, 06:32:32 AM
All right, it come to shape ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 23, 2012, 11:21:10 AM
 :-clap :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 25, 2012, 05:04:17 AM
A second Corsair windshield assembly was modified a bit and fits nicely on the Tamiya fuselage decking. You'll notice a bit of extra material is visible under the windscreen portion. This has been trimmed back to be flush with the windshield framing prior to gluing. Here are all three transparencies sanded smooth and polished, then test-fitted to the fuselage with a photo of V-2 as a guide:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1179_zps9eee64ba.jpg)

Now that the plexiglas is satisfactorily fabricated the fuselage has been glued together and the rest of the model will go together without too many more modifications:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1184_zpsfdb9e6aa.jpg)

Then engine nacelles come together under the wings and a little filler is applied to the seams. This is also a good time to mask the windscreen and apply a tiny bit of filler on the fuselage panel/windscreen joint:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1185_zpsed5d95b0.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 25, 2012, 07:10:28 AM
Good way mate :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 25, 2012, 09:23:10 AM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 26, 2012, 06:50:34 AM
After our Christmas meal and a walk with the dog I spent a good deal of the afternoon working on the V-3. Some priming to find flaws, filler, primer etc..... The windscreen assembly is finally satisfactory and ready for installation. The test-fitting is only temporary. This will be the last thing added to the final assembly after all other priming is complete. (You can see why I added the wiring and plumbing forward of the instrument panel in the second photo--quite a lot is visible with the windscreen installed!)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1187_zpsdd509000.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1188_zpsb732f212.jpg)

I could see no excuse not to continue, so the wing and horizontal stabilizers were mounted and filling began. All the pre-planning and endless test-fitting really paid of quite nicely as a minimal amount of filler is needed at the modified joints:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1191_zps76265278.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1190_zps5fb7c9dd.jpg)

Perhaps even some primer can be applied tomorrow if time permits!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 26, 2012, 07:38:11 AM
Very good done mate :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 26, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Great work my friend!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on December 28, 2012, 06:17:34 AM
Okay, all priming and filling is now done and the jet is nearly ready for final camouflage coats. I've been working on assembling the elements for the landing gear tonight. The plan is to make final assembly of the gear and test-fit these prior to starting the painting:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1194_zpsc96241b9.jpg)

I took time off from the 262 to do a bit of painting on the Yak (other thread) and this Fw 190D. As you see by the second photo, this Fw was assigned to the airfield protection unit of JV 44, so it's Me 262-related!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1196_zps94ade655.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1197_zpsaf4cdbc7.jpg)

Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on December 28, 2012, 06:25:56 AM
Fw 190 D look great :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on December 28, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Great work mate!!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on January 02, 2013, 04:42:09 AM
The main landing gear assemblies are now coming together. Still a bit of adjustment and a couple of small bits to be manufactured yet. Then brake lines and landing gear doors can be mounted:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1257_zpsc0467157.jpg)

Then a test fitting to the airframe. This, again needs adjustment but progress is being made. I was able to check the strut length against my drawings and photos of the real thing:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1258_zps1992d0cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on January 02, 2013, 06:32:28 AM
Excellent :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on January 02, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Your work is really great Scott!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on January 05, 2013, 12:19:27 AM
Thank you, friends! Encouragement is appreciated.

Here is the left landing gear with both hydraulic lines installed on retract actuator and brake lines applied.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1261_zps787cc0d3.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on January 05, 2013, 07:42:49 AM
Great!!!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on January 05, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
Really great!! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on January 05, 2013, 10:27:33 PM
Painting has started....... :-wch
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on January 06, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
The right gear got all its plumbing tonight and both gear doors were installed on the struts:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1276_zps23dd2668.jpg)

Also the airframe received its RLM 76 coating in the appropriate places:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1274_zps82245a67.jpg)

Daniel, the sponge used for masking you taught me is a life-saver on these landing gear wells! :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on January 06, 2013, 02:01:50 PM
Looks great my friend! :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Ernie on January 12, 2013, 02:37:41 PM
WOW! Fantaastic Scott! can't wait to see it with all the paint on!
Ernie
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on January 15, 2013, 12:27:05 AM
A very small update on this project, the horizontal stabilizers and wing root fairings received some paint last weekend. As soon as it warms up a little the rest can be sprayed.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1331_zpsdf3deacc.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on January 15, 2013, 06:13:00 AM
Just relax ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on January 15, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
 :-clap :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on January 20, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on January 30, 2013, 02:47:16 AM
A bit more of the paint is starting to go on. Waiting on weather right now for further spraying.....
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1336_zps9226acda.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on January 30, 2013, 03:01:33 AM
 :-clap :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on January 30, 2013, 07:57:32 AM
Great :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 03, 2013, 12:48:28 AM
Today I finally felt capable of continuing the painting on the 262 and the weather was cooperative also. All that it lacks now is the mottling on sides and the black-green nose cap.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1354_zpsc2a69041.jpg)

Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 03, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
I guess this is very close to be completed ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 03, 2013, 09:30:42 AM
Comes nicely... :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 03, 2013, 12:55:39 PM
I like it!! :-clap :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 03, 2013, 03:07:41 PM
Thanks, mates!

Next, mottling on fuselage and nacelles (drinking coffee right now to get my mind adjusted). Then it'll be on to clear coat, decals, and final assembly.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 04, 2013, 03:03:42 AM
After the coffee settled in I set up and adusted the airbrush for the final mottling on the side surfaces. Next up will be to clear and add decals.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1358_zpse9266d02.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1359_zpsbb879565.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 04, 2013, 03:12:14 AM
This is real beauty!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 04, 2013, 07:21:48 AM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 04, 2013, 05:40:15 PM
Nice!!!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 08, 2013, 03:17:33 AM
Decals starting to go on--this won't take too long to complete now.....
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1362_zps50ff2c77.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 08, 2013, 06:45:00 AM
This will be great once when complete :))
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 08, 2013, 10:38:09 AM
This will be great once when complete :))

:-tri
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 08, 2013, 05:19:02 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: memitus on February 08, 2013, 07:09:58 PM
Scott,

Simply great!!  :-ok :-ok :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 13, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
Creeping forward slowly on this, I installed the tailwheel strut and doors last evening. The wheel and fork were temporarily installed on the strut for this photo but will not be permanently attached until the end--I'd break it off otherwise!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1371_zpsee0d4bc7.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2013, 12:52:33 PM
Nice tail details :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 13, 2013, 01:06:20 PM
 :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 13, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 18, 2013, 02:45:21 AM
I'm slowly running out of parts to install on this project. Last night I was able to add the main landing gear as you see here, and a few more small details were assembled today. Really all that remains now is the hinged canopy section, antenna and a couple more tiny bits.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1405_zps6620a7b2.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 18, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
Goooood :))
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 18, 2013, 03:48:11 PM
Cool mate!!! :-clap

Can you take a few shots of wheel bays? :) Just to see all that scratchbuild!  :-flo :))
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 18, 2013, 05:35:24 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 19, 2013, 02:29:13 AM
Here are a few photos of the wheelwells/cockpit tub, Sall. The primary structure is from the Tamiya kit with some parts modified and moved around. Yellow wiring is from my wire collection. The strut wells and doors are scratchbuilt, as shown earlier. The landing gear struts and actuators are from a variety of Scale Aircraft Conversion landing gear upgrade sets, also modified as needed to fit the needs of V 3. The hydraulic and brake lines are small diameter black wire.

Overhead:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1416_zps4168db6d.jpg)

Looking forward:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1425_zps882c0fa1.jpg)

Looking aft:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1423_zps81a0467e.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 19, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
Nice ;)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 19, 2013, 05:28:08 PM
Fine work!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 19, 2013, 10:51:24 PM
Looks really great! :-clap
Thanks for pics! ;) :-flo
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 20, 2013, 12:09:34 AM
Glad to help, Sall. :-flo

Now I ask you folks to give the finished model your critiques and criticisms as there is a small chance I might enter it into a contest. I have left the contest modeling to other builders for many years now but I might display this one in the spring at a show in Dallas, Texas.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1427_zpsc9be0131.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1430_zps5ce2a520.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1432_zps1cf1274c.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1431_zps143f2f27.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1433_zpsb5213f7c.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1426_zpsd1198cce.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 20, 2013, 06:09:46 PM
This is really beautiful!! :-clap :-clap

I think that you MUST go to contest, and no doubt there will be award for you!! ;) :-flo
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 20, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
Wonderful :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: memitus on February 20, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
Scott

I got it!! I like it a lot!!

Simply great
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: draken35 on February 20, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 20, 2013, 11:12:27 PM
Thanks, everyone! :-flo

Sall, I might enter this in a contest, but it's also fun to sometimes put such things on the "display only" table just for the fun of showing it to other modelers. My competition modeling years were fun but not really relaxing as building currently is. This kit was good practice for the SAAB B17.

Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 20, 2013, 11:24:03 PM
I absolutely agree with you Scott!! :-clap :-flo
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: GregM on February 21, 2013, 02:08:19 AM
I say go for it!  The model turned out great and your scratchbuilding and modifications are impressive as always.  Rather than spending months on it building it specifically for competition and agonizing over every little detail you built it for fun, if it doesn't win anything in the contest then it wouldn't be a huge letdown.  Easy for me to say that from here though.   :)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Jicehem on February 21, 2013, 07:58:18 AM
Hi mates,  :-salut :-salut :-salut

Only one word enters my head : SPLENDID !

Jicehem :-wave
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 23, 2013, 08:43:52 PM
Thanks to everyone!

I pulled my very old (built soon after I got my first airbrush) Monogram model down and dusted it off for a comparison photo. I should give this one a coat of flat varnish!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1475_zps8770caee.jpg)
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 23, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
Great scene mate :-ok
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Sall on February 23, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
 :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Jicehem on February 23, 2013, 10:52:48 PM
Hi mate, :-salut

Very beautiful picture.  :-clap :-clap :-clap
Monogram's Me 262 is perhaps the best replica of this plane...

Jicehem :-wave
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: Second Air Force on February 24, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
I built the Monogram kit so many years ago, but I still remember it was a very nice model to construct. Having built this Tamiya offering I feel that I've experienced two really nice kits--one built in 1978 and one this year!
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: memitus on February 25, 2013, 09:37:29 PM
Hi mates,

I don't know if you have the same feeling when you put together an old model and your last model, and compare them!! For me, it is very special to see the skills that I had and now. Related of this, I remember what I was doing in my life when I did an old model. I like to do this exercise making a timeline enjoying all related in my surroundings with builing models.

By other hand, Monogram has a great shape in his old models, you can compare them vs. Tamiya or Hasegawa and get a surprise!!

Two thumps up!! Scott.
Title: Re: Me 262 V-3
Post by: No.1 on February 25, 2013, 10:25:11 PM
Right noted mate :-ok I remember long time ago when I have seen Monogram instructions, they include data of the resources and all resources present official engineering material :)) So absolute correct in shape ;)