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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: No.1 on November 04, 2015, 05:22:33 PM

Title: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 04, 2015, 05:22:33 PM
As you have seen in our topic about new acquisition, I get this one few months ago but due to many other things, I was not able to start it before. Sorry, I forget to take image of box, will do that tomorrow. This is very start and on very start I hurt my finger...  :-wall  :-dal
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 04, 2015, 07:33:08 PM
Little work on cockpit elements ;)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 04, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
Is your finger OK?

Nice work anyway... ;)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: modellius on November 04, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
Interesting subject and a great start
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 04, 2015, 09:20:22 PM
Thanks friends :) Yes, finger is operational now, I slice surface with grinder and very sharp tool inside
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 05, 2015, 09:07:54 AM
Work on seat belts
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 05, 2015, 02:50:02 PM
I work on interior and there is some problems. Main interior is look like RLM 66 and main problem could be radio unit which can be in the same color as well in Gerategrau (bluish version)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 05, 2015, 03:16:26 PM
Here it is situation in the moment and I have problem to flat down decals over raised surface of instruments...  :-wall

And there is one visitor ;)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 05, 2015, 05:59:45 PM
Eventually try with an hair dryer... Not too short distance to avoid the parts to be deformed
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 05, 2015, 06:15:47 PM
I try something other- they lay down a bit then I penetrate film with razor blade and put more decal setting liquid. Wait few hours then releat and until now they lay down much but I will need more extra work to finalize that
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 05, 2015, 07:25:17 PM
I try something other- they lay down a bit then I penetrate film with razor blade and put more decal setting liquid. Wait few hours then releat and until now they lay down much but I will need more extra work to finalize that

It's also a good technique. More time spending, but will give excellent results.
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 05, 2015, 08:31:12 PM
Best solution is to use Superscale fluid for decals, ultimate one
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 06, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
Still work on cockpit, focus on seat belts :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 06, 2015, 08:35:30 PM
Strabge, I cannot see your photos this time...
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 06, 2015, 09:03:45 PM
Problems.....
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on November 06, 2015, 10:48:30 PM
Oh, this is excellent stuff, mate!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 07, 2015, 09:50:12 AM
Thanks and here is progress from last night and more work will be done today ;)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 07, 2015, 11:10:17 AM
Excellent!!! :-ok
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 07, 2015, 11:19:35 AM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: modellius on November 07, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
this looks amazing, great job mate !
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 07, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
Thank you :)) Work on HGW belts is completed and interesting detail is that one seat belt is fixed at floor, obviously to secure gunner when operate machine gun in standing position  :-think
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 07, 2015, 03:17:46 PM
And this is for today :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 07, 2015, 04:43:26 PM
Very nice! I like your leather painting...
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 07, 2015, 04:47:16 PM
Thanks :)) Revell leather brown color
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 07, 2015, 05:50:05 PM
Thank you for the info!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 08, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
Problem- it look like that central float samples have fuselage bottom in some coat, maybe anti fouling paint? Any suggestion?
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on November 08, 2015, 01:44:55 PM
No idea I'm afraid...:(
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 08, 2015, 02:06:05 PM
All right, thank for showing attention :-ok
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 08, 2015, 03:15:18 PM
By the way, now the wings are in work.
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Jicehem on November 08, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
Problem- it look like that central float samples have fuselage bottom in some coat, maybe anti fouling paint? Any suggestion?

Hello,

Officially anti-fouling paint was only applied on treated bare metal surfaces below the level of the water. I don't know of something else.

Jicehem :-wave
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 08, 2015, 05:35:25 PM
Thanks. So I will improvise something...
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: modellius on November 09, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
Not sure if I'm right but if I remember correctly the dornier hydro planes were painted in some sord of black protecting paint on the under surfaces which were in contact with water.....
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 09, 2015, 11:06:11 AM
Yes, in early years, asphalt based paint and that was anti-corrosion coat. Problem is that black and red look the same on black and white images. Other thing is the wash out of the coat show about, specific way for anti fouling coats. They work in this way- sea plant attach for the surface and in this case anti fouling. As well this coat include poison, after some time plant die and fall but it also peel of some amount of coat. This is my doubts, what that could be? If this is anti fouling coat, that could be red brown color.
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: modellius on November 09, 2015, 11:47:59 AM
Well, damaged peeled of protecting paint maybe ?
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 09, 2015, 12:24:33 PM
No idea...  :-wall  :(
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Jicehem on November 09, 2015, 02:17:27 PM
Problem is that black and red look the same on black and white images.

Hello :-salut

Renderings of red ans black are black only with orthochromatic films. With panchro ones red is a shade of grey (dark to mediem grey) but lighter than black.
I never heard of anti-fouling paint on surfaces above water and, more precisely, on fabrics. I understand that anti-fouling paint was necessary for surfaces below the water level because it's not esasy to clean them.

Jicehem :-wave
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 09, 2015, 03:06:10 PM
In this case, what is the coat present on image?
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Jicehem on November 09, 2015, 03:29:46 PM
Maybe a kind of deterioreted transparent waterproof paint. But not black because the black letterings are legible on it...

Jicehem :-wave
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 09, 2015, 03:32:09 PM
As well it is so dark and match red on flag... red? Or some family of red? Anyway my friends, we make new reference as well nobody spot this and many samples were made of this kit with this markings! Congratulation, you are all the great! Subject is everything but easy!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on November 10, 2015, 03:28:53 PM
Good progress here!

No.1, I have two photos here of early machines and I think the bottom of the fuselage is simply silver dope. I don't have access to send the photos to you right now but will do so later today. The photos are of D-IEHK, twin-float prototype and D-ILRE, single float prototype.
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 10, 2015, 03:41:05 PM
Please send me those images, will see what that could be.
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on November 10, 2015, 09:11:17 PM
I'm afraid these pictures are not of great use, and one may be the same as yours. However, I am pretty confident that the underside of the fuselage is silver when looking at the image in my book. The bottoms of the floats would likely have had anti-fouling paint on them as y'all have thought in earlier posts, so I would think that these would be asphaltic black.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_2543_zps4tpie3d0.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/IMG_2543_zps4tpie3d0.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_2546_zpsv6wae0bm.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/IMG_2546_zpsv6wae0bm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 10, 2015, 09:15:44 PM
Good images, help this subject :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on November 10, 2015, 09:26:10 PM
I'll try to get some better images of these later......some scanner problems here.......
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 10, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
No problem :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on November 11, 2015, 01:00:54 AM
I found a third photo of the twin-float prototype on a catapult. I notice that it has no anti-fouling paint at all on the float.....just silver.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_2562_zpscldvia0b.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/IMG_2562_zpscldvia0b.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_2547_zps7zgkyvdf.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/IMG_2547_zps7zgkyvdf.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_2548_zpszjv8m3rb.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/IMG_2548_zpszjv8m3rb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on November 11, 2015, 06:39:58 AM
Twin float are different
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 02, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
Back to project ;)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 02, 2015, 07:12:19 PM
Work on central float and start work on engine
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 03, 2015, 10:54:46 AM
Engine :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 03, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
Engine completed
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on December 03, 2015, 07:48:38 PM
Excellent progress my friend!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on December 03, 2015, 11:30:24 PM
Gosh, this is a fine kit, mate--and good progress!!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 04, 2015, 08:24:39 AM
Thank you friends, this is situation right now :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 04, 2015, 11:19:09 AM
Approach to final assembly works, some subassembly elements were made and dry test on kit. Floats are completed and painted a coat of Alclad  :-tri
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 04, 2015, 01:46:53 PM
Main painting started :) RLM 02 overall
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 04, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
Red brown at bottom
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on December 05, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Excellent! :-ok
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 05, 2015, 06:16:38 PM
Thank you :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on December 05, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Very good!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 06, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Thank you :)) Final paint work :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: Second Air Force on December 06, 2015, 02:32:56 PM
Not long now!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 06, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
Yes, close to complete :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 07, 2015, 11:18:28 AM
I start work on decals and realize that propeller is not polished metal...
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 07, 2015, 12:08:12 PM
Two more images :)
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 07, 2015, 12:53:11 PM
Floats mounted :) And this one is so big, I need some space to make images  :-dal
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on December 07, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
Splendid!
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 07, 2015, 06:17:28 PM
Thanks :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 11, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Completed :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: draken35 on December 11, 2015, 06:33:18 PM
Splendid!!! :-ok
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 11, 2015, 06:36:35 PM
Thanks :))
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: modellius on December 20, 2015, 01:24:20 AM
very well done
Title: Re: Arado 196 Revell 1/32
Post by: No.1 on December 20, 2015, 05:31:35 AM
Thanks :))