LetLetLet ~ Warplanes
Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: draken35 on November 08, 2011, 08:54:53 PM
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This is a kit I've begun some times ago. I was waiting before to show my build, because there are some problems with the kit and I'm not sure it's really a buildable one. But well, it's said; we will seen; and go for the show... :))
The artbox is splendid. To be noted that on the actual airplane, the wings were 5 colours lozenge fabric covered and not doped linen.
At first regard, the kit himself looks to be a great one; but when you try dry fitting there are some problems, the most important being the base of the rudder... Lot of work in perspective...
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Never seen any Karaya kits before, this look to be nice build ;)
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Well mate, we will seen if there are really buildable or not... But at first regard indeed there are very nice looking!
The pieces are sanded, and separated between the "must have to be painted quickly" and "to be painted later"...
The propeller and the engine look great but they are asking for putty (Tamiya putty for the propeller; Vallejo putty for the engine).
The seatbelts are glued; and then, white primer on the elements
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Hope you will be able to synchronize several builds on your work bench :))
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Well, this one is not a "priority"; I have all my time :-green
I'm working on it on "lost moments", or, as for today, when I'm too nervious to work on little PE parts on the Hellcat :-red
The reason why I've begun to build that kit is to test a new variant technique for plywood rendering.
As base I've used Vallejo Yellow.
To complete the engine with some missing rivets, I've used 3D paint for tissue...
And as base for the propeller, Tamiya XF-59
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Some days later I've applied burnt sienna (oil paint) on the propeller. I'm not 100% happy with the result, and I'm wondering if I will keep it as is, or to restart the work...
For the cockpit interior I applied burnt sienna with... sponge; then progressively removed the oil paint with another piece of sponge. I really like the result!!!
And one week later, I've painted the second face of the propeller with the oil paint
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Last week I've applied the 5 colours lozenge decals on the lower parts. Like for the Fokker D.VII I'm using the lozenge made by Doug Baumann, and printed on clear decal sheet paper. I must say that next time I will try to print my lozenge decals on WHITE laser decal paper; the white paper being more opaque than the clear one. Using the clear one obligates to use a white primer.
...And today I've painted the seat: Vallejo marron brown for the seat; Vallejo red Leather for the couffin; Mister Kit German Dope for the seatbelts.
As said, I will continue that kit in the lost moments; other kits have priority.
And I really don't know actually if the kit is buildable. But it's a good trial platform for some techniques I never used before ;)
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Great job so far! I like it! :-clap :-clap
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Thank you mate!
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Excellent!
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Way to go, Draken, it's looking great!
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I have this in 1:72, Merlin Models. Old but nice, although the cowling is very poor :(
Good build subject, I must do my Hansa-Brandenburg W.20 at some point!
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Thank you all!!!
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Interior looks very vivid and nicely weatherd. The lozenge ar on the spot and as I see settled nicely. So far excellent!!! :)
Primož
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Thank you Primoz!
Today I was unable to use the compressor for the airbrush, for the Hellcat. So I've worked on the D.XI again, setting the upper lozenges...
Not visible on the photo :)) but some little corrections will be needed. Nothing important...
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Little progress... The ribs tapes are placed on the upper lozenges. Same work to be made yet on the lower lozenges...
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Extra :))
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Thank you mate!
The ribs are also place on the lower surfaces; and I've closed the fuselage. This one asked for TONS of putty!!!
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I will sound weird but I have nothing against putty, at least make sure that surface will be perfect and also give me options to make many kits :))
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Sanding. :-kr
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Both of you are right... ;)
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Sanding. :-kr
Meaning of life :)) :))
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:)) :))
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That takes me long time, but it's sanded!!!
As you can see on the lower surface of the fuselage, there were many bubbles in the resin at that location...
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Last work made today... Again, decals ;)
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Nice job with decals Daniel. :-ok
Probably you must take one more layer of putty. :-/
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Nice job with decals Daniel. :-ok
Probably you must take one more layer of putty. :-/
Thank you SAll!
For putty, I will see after a first primer...
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Depends of primer density, it is possible that you will need no filler ;)
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This is going great!
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Thank you!
No filler needed anymore on the underside; I will make a wood effect with oil wash and I think that that will make good camo for eventual imperfections...
On the uppererside, filler will be needed for the next phase (the fin...)
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Good for underside! :-ok
Upperside... :-/ But.. This is modeling,sooo... :-tri
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I'm arrived at one of the possible problems with that kit... The rudder is not fitting well on the fuselage. I reinforced the part/fuselage assembly with hard wire. Making the hole provoked a fissure between the two half fuselages, that was repaired with some cyano. Now a long and delicate sanding phase will occur soon...
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Simply designed airplane
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Sanding... :-kr
Happy work! :-razz :)) :-joke
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90 degree angle sanding is always so hard :-wall, but you'll soon have this part behind you, I'm sure.
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Well, I will take my time on that "obstacle", because there is a difference of dimensions between the rudder and the base on the fuselage.
Sanding will be time-consuming here. Hardly time-consuming...
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Sanding done. Some rescribing was, of course, needed...
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:-ok
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Must say that you have steady hand and lines are so precise!
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Must say that you have steady hand and lines are so precise!
Thank you both of you!
For the lines, I use as guide a little bit of old Dymo tapes. There were strong enough to be used as guide, and self-adhesive but easily removable.
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...Oh, and for my hand, there are shakening when I make models. Really.
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...Oh, and for my hand, there are shakening when I make models. Really.
My problems too :(
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...But goes better after a good Chimay bleue beer :)
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Ha ha :))
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Well...
I like the Albatros D.XI.
... But I don't like the kit of the Albatros D.XI... :-kr
First airbrushing of primer revealed myriads of little bubbles in the resin, not visible without the primer. Plus a joint visible on the fuselage... I've filled all that bothering stuff with cyano.
Sall: sanding again... :-wch
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:-bat :-kr
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Wow, there were alot of bubbles on the botton :-/ I hope when you sand the superglue down, it does not make more bubbles appear.
Ernie
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:( Bad feeling when you are ready for next step and realize that previous are still not done...
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:( Bad feeling when you are ready for next step and realize that previous are still not done...
Sure. I must say I'm really bothered. A friend of mine tried to build that kit but finally put it in the trashcan...
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Oh, yes the bubbles...
When we had our small resin-casting company I warned my customers about the entrapped air that sometimes afflicted our parts. We didn't have access to a proper vacuum chamber and this was one reason the bubbles appeared. Sorry you're having to work them out on this project!
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I just realized that you printed your own Lozenge, is that something that avaliable for anyone to print out? I would be interested in trying it out.
Ernie
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I solve bubble simply in very early step with few cat of diluted Mr. Surfaces but this does not give 100% guarantee that they will not be back.
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Ernie, I've sent you those lozenges by email. There were made by Doug Baumann, downloadable freely on a forum that don't exist more actually...
Scott and Srecko: for those bubbles I hope to can eliminate them. If I cannot... Well, that aircraft will return on the shelves for a very, very long time...
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Thank you, thank you, got them. I guess I can dig a couple of WW.I kits out of storage now!
Ernie
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Scott and Srecko: for those bubbles I hope to can eliminate them. If I cannot... Well, that aircraft will return on the shelves for a very, very long time...
Trust me, you can fill all those voids with some work. I simply make sure all of the bubbles have "popped"--that is, that there is no membrane at all still remaining from when the bubble formed. Then I very carefully layer on a light coat of filler to the entire surface, making certain to fill each bubble as best as possible but not covering the rest of the undimpled surface. I then sand it lightly and re-apply the filler in the same way, repeating until the entire affected area is smooth. Then it's a simple matter of priming/sanding/possible re-filling and repeating. I've also used CA glue to fill larger or deeper voids first and then do the putty/sanding after the CA has cured fully.
I'd sure hate to see you have to put this back on the shelf because of these pesky bubbles.
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Thank you, thank you, got them. I guess I can dig a couple of WW.I kits out of storage now!
Ernie
Ernie, I recommend you to use white decal paper; better than clear one in this case: the lozenges will be more opaques.
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Scott and Srecko: for those bubbles I hope to can eliminate them. If I cannot... Well, that aircraft will return on the shelves for a very, very long time...
Trust me, you can fill all those voids with some work. I simply make sure all of the bubbles have "popped"--that is, that there is no membrane at all still remaining from when the bubble formed. Then I very carefully layer on a light coat of filler to the entire surface, making certain to fill each bubble as best as possible but not covering the rest of the undimpled surface. I then sand it lightly and re-apply the filler in the same way, repeating until the entire affected area is smooth. Then it's a simple matter of priming/sanding/possible re-filling and repeating. I've also used CA glue to fill larger or deeper voids first and then do the putty/sanding after the CA has cured fully.
I'd sure hate to see you have to put this back on the shelf because of these pesky bubbles.
Well, I will do my best with that plane anyway. And as I've said, I've no deadline to finish this one ;)
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I've begun the work on the engine (same time than the Hellcat: let restart the "thematic days; today was engine day :-tri )
First: airbushing of Vallejo Oily Steel with a drop of black.
Then, a very diluted mix of Oily Steel and Old Gold.
Next phase will be the use of brown ink...
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Welcome back to project ;)
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Yes, good to see this again! engine looks good :-ok
Ernie
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Nice engine!! :-ok
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The engine looks stunning!
Primož
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Thank you!
Here is it, after application of Citadel Colors brown ink...
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Look like metallic?
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:-ok
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Look like metallic?
Yes... Surprisingly the addition of brown ink gives that final effect.
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Beautiful!
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Thank you mate! ;)
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Yesterday was: "Sanding day" :-green
Now ready for painting? Just hope that...
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Good you back to subject :)
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Good you back to subject :)
... I was just awaiting to have other sanding jobs to do!
It's the same for my D.VII rudder: I'm awaiting to have to airbrush primer on the MiG's... ;)
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Nice. :-ok
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Primer airbrushed. Each sanding stage provokes new holes in the resin... Enough with that; it's bothering. I will find a solution during the painting phase, probably with the oil paint.
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Another solution- coat it with thin metal foil, like bare metal foil. This will isolate all holes.
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Another solution- coat it with thin metal foil, like bare metal foil. This will isolate all holes.
Good idea!
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Another solution- coat it with thin metal foil, like bare metal foil. This will isolate all holes.
Good idea!
Take care with the foiling method, though. Sometimes the small pinholes are still just as visible. I have done this and had the foil actually bubble up later because air trapped in the holes expanded when warmed.
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Perheaps simplest method will be to fill the little holes with oil paint...
Anyway, little progress...
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:-ok
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Thank you!
Progress, but with some troubles...
First I have masked some panels that will be painted in another color than yellow, to give some variety.
For yellow I used first Vallejo yellow, but that paint caused problems with my new paintbrush, obstructing it... So, after having cleaned it, I've used Gunze H4 that is slightly glossy... Hope that will not be the cause of some problems with oil paint, later...
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The panels are all painted. The masked ones were painted with Vallejo "Wood"
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Hope you will complete this kit soon, no matter of the problems it have, it will be for sure nice when completed. All your subjects are nice!
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Thank you mate! ;)
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This is really a great thread and I second what No.1 said earlier!
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Looking nice in this yellow. :-clap
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Thanks!!!
The yellow is not a matt one, and for the application of oil paint it's better to work on a matt paint. So, I've airbrushed Pébéo matt varnish
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At least surface is flat now
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Good advice. :-ok
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...And here is coming oil time...
First, with a piece of sponge, I've applied GENEROUSLY oil paint Burnt Umber from Winsor & Newton (see first photo)
Than, with other pieces of sponges, I've gently and longly removed the excess of oil paint...
I like the result :-love
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This is still best way o make good visible details, first time ever was used by Verlinden ;)
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Looks good, I like it! :-ok.
Ernie
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Thank you!
I didn't know that Verlinden was the first to use that technique. It's a really good one...
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Awesome result!
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Awesome result!
I agree.. Looking great! :-clap :-clap
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Thank you!
I've continued with oil paint today...
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Well.... any plans to get more Karaya kits in future?
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:-ok
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Well.... any plans to get more Karaya kits in future?
Well, there are some interresting kits offered by Karaya but actually I will limit myself to this one...
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Pébéo clear varnish
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Pébéo clear varnish
Pebeo days :))
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Pébéo clear varnish
Pebeo days :))
I also wanted to say that! :))
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Both of you are right ;)
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One of the BIG problems of that kit: decals! There are Techmod ones, and taking into account my exprience with those decals, I really don't like them...
And this time, problems again: the decals broken into the water!!! Fortunately, a friend of mine who owns the kit but judged it unbuildable gived me his decal sheet as spare. Good precaution as you can see on the first photo; but even with those spares one of the fuselage decal is damaged and I will have to repair that with micro touch of paint...
That kit is bothering me... :-bat :-bat :-bat
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Just blown it away, finish it somehow and forget manufacturer for few decades ;)
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Just blown it away, finish it somehow and forget manufacturer for few decades ;)
You're right; maybe that kit will go back on the shelves for a long time... That will give me more time for my other build in progress.
One positive thing anyway is that I've begun that kit to try wood rendering with oil paint on yellow and beige colors; and for that I'm fully satisfied with the result.
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Huh.. Bad thing.. :(
But i have no doubt that you will fix that,and kit looks nice for now. ;)
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Well, I'm considering the situation: to continue, or back on the shelves for a long while...
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My opinion is that the best thing is to finish it, as fast as you can. If you put it on shelf,it will still torture you, it's better to finish it. ;)
Finish it now, and you can never to see it again. :))
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It's also true... ;)
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I have not worked with Techmod decals as yet, so this is just an idea I had--would spraying the overall sheet with clear lacquer or varnish help with the brittleness? I realize it's too late for the problem you've already had but I use this method with great success on very old decal sheets.
Scott
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I have not worked with Techmod decals as yet, so this is just an idea I had--would spraying the overall sheet with clear lacquer or varnish help with the brittleness? I realize it's too late for the problem you've already had but I use this method with great success on very old decal sheets.
Scott
You're right Scott; I knew that but have completely forgotten to use varnish...
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Decision has fallen: the kit is back on the shelves; probably definitively.
I've tried to repair the decals, but I'm not satisfied with the result...
Bad decals.
Too much bubbles in the resin.
Some bat fittings.
I have no more fun with that kit since along moment; and so many other ones that are awaiting to be build, and that will give me real pleasure.
But I have no regret at all; what is positive is the good plywood rendering obtained with yellow acrylic and oil paint.
Let's go to new adventures! ;)
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Good decision, no need to fight in every battle
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Yep, sometimes the model wins these contests. I've got my share of such projects on the shelves, too!
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Well,anyway,this is good decision. ;) Hardly wait to see new kits! :-tri
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Thank you for understanding, mates! :-ok