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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Combat Warplanes => Topic started by: Wingman81 on March 25, 2008, 01:12:10 PM

Title: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on March 25, 2008, 01:12:10 PM
Hi mates.

Next weekend i will be in Speyer. This is brithday present from my parents. Besides the old town i will of course not pass the opportunity to visit the Technik Museum in Speyer  :-green. Also i read they have a part of the museum for models. You can have a good impression what they have in this link here:

http://www.museumspeyer.de/000040FE68C0_D9A05548_00007BB8_0001.html
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on March 25, 2008, 01:30:32 PM
Best impressions will be when you back with images  :-tri :-tri
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on March 25, 2008, 02:30:55 PM
Yes i will take 2 cameras...just in case. I just realized that the Dr.1 they have in the Museum is from Achim  ;) I hope it will be grounded and not on ropes.

http://www.collectors-edition.com/f-t-s_erster_nachbau.htm
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on March 25, 2008, 02:41:37 PM
To regret no original Dr.I is preserved. By the  way- remember me if you get close to the technical drawings of this airplane :)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Letipapa on March 28, 2008, 10:26:34 PM
Wingman81, take a lot of photo's, You lucky man! :) :-ok :-wave
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on March 28, 2008, 11:57:32 PM
Theres a slight change in the plan. Since we could not get an accommodation over the weekend we will go from monday to wednesday  ;) Yes i try my best with the photos i promise  :-cool
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 02, 2008, 11:33:39 PM
Just a quick start tomorrow i will post more photos. :-green Also i havent seen yet the photos i took with the other camrea. Someone already guess what it is? Ill have to look it up.

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 02, 2008, 11:38:41 PM
Interesting position of guardian :)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 02, 2008, 11:52:08 PM
Yes this one was outisde near the road to attarct the people. Had to run back over the whole estate to get it ;o It seems to have italian marking. Its  >> F-84 Thunderstreak << (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-84F_Thunderstreak) it seems  :-salut
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Letipapa on April 03, 2008, 01:34:15 AM
Thunderstreak, yes.  :-clap :-clap :-clap
Italian colors, and very interesting detail on airbrakes (? :-think), it looks like a Korean letters to me. Could it be USAF one that is sold or given to Italy??? :-think, or these are not letters at all? :-think
 :-wave
Oooop, I checked on some other photo's of this airplane - these are perforations on the airbrake. I was fantasizing  :-/ - Korean letters :)).

Good shots on a cloudy and grey weather. :-clap :-clap :-clap :-wave
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 03:06:26 AM
Very nice observation Papa! Yes weather was not the best :;( but it was more difficult to make photos inside of the hanger. Lighting was not always very good.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 03:23:34 AM
Heres the next one: Pilatus P3 Trainer (1956-1958)
and
Air Fouga C.M. 170 R Magister (first in series produced rocket powered trainer aircraft (1952)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: mfg495 on April 03, 2008, 08:56:58 AM
Great set of images, keep it up  :-ok
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 11:17:53 AM
Now something for the WWI freaks. One of the two Fokker Dr.I replicas they have has the color scheme of Dr.I 204/17 of Vfw Paul Bäumer of Jasta 2 "Boelcke" April 1918. The plane is also on the title page of the Osprey book about Jasta Boelcke that was a strange coincidence that i had that book with me  ;)

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 11:22:08 AM
some more...
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 11:34:55 AM
And more.....
This is Belgian Stampe SV.4 Travel and Training Plane of 1933+
Sorry the close up foto was a little messed up. I tried already to clear it a little with my program.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Nico Braas on April 03, 2008, 04:14:19 PM
Latest news is that the Russian Buran flying test model fitted with two jet engines is now underway to the Speyer musem!
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 04:35:43 PM
They have already polo shirts with Buran emblem in the gift shop and some old russian cosmonauts flying gears are near the entrance on display.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: santynus on April 03, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
the photos about the Italian F-84 Thunderstreak GETTI TONANTI (getti=jet tonanti=thunder) was one of the first italian air force acrobatic team... from 5° Aerobrigata RIMINI (Italy) 1960

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTsLeBx29R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78wHj8VA1dE
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 07:30:52 PM
Extremely nice video Santi :-ok

Next one was a Mirage III E with special white painting and recce equipment in the nose for day and night photo missions. For long distance recce it had a    self-contained aid navigation system on board.

The second is a Beech Model 50 Twin Bonanza.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 03, 2008, 07:33:29 PM
forgot one ;o
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 03, 2008, 08:25:59 PM
Great museum collection mate :)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 04, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
Ok i continue...found another 2 shots of the Belgian Trainer and Mirage, the silver one is selfexplaining  :-green
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 04, 2008, 02:19:21 PM
some more...
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 04, 2008, 02:29:34 PM
Every new post is better and better!!! Congratulation mate  :-clap  :-tri
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 04, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
I promise the better photos are yet to come outside of the hangar ;) Next one was hard to take pictures because it was placed next to a tree and a pillar  :-wall Its another french recce (Mirage?); the yellow is a LET Z 37 A Čmelák (engl:Bumblebee) was a Czech multi purpose plane used as a crop duster and fire fighter.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 05, 2008, 12:39:45 PM
In the darkest corners of the museum you find sometimes a Swiss Vampire  :-tri

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 05, 2008, 12:42:19 PM
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Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 06, 2008, 01:43:05 PM
Now here is my absolute favourite from all planes in the hangar:

Canadair F-86 Sabre



Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 06, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_Sabre

From Wikipedia:

Golden Hawks

The Golden Hawks were a Canadian aerobatic flying team that was established in 1959 to celebrate the RCAF's 35th anniversary and the "Golden" 50th anniversary of Canadian flight, which began with the AEA Silver Dart in 1909. Initially, a six-plane team flying brilliantly-painted metallic-gold Canadair Sabre Mk 5s, was envisioned as performing for only one year, but the Golden Hawks were so popular after their single 63-show season that the team was expanded. In the following year, another plane was added to the team, allowing for a five-plane main formation with two solo jets. The Golden Hawks continued performing for three more seasons, changing to the Mk 6 in 1961, until they were disbanded on 7 February 1964, having flown a total of 317 shows across North America.[3]

    370 built, F-86F-type with Orenda engine, all to RCAF, 75 later passed to Luftwaffe.
Sabre Mk 6
    655 built, 390 to RCAF, 225 to Luftwaffe, six to Colombia and 34 to South Africa.

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 06, 2008, 01:49:22 PM
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Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 07, 2008, 06:52:56 PM
Today i have a MiG-15 for you :

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 07, 2008, 06:55:20 PM
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Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 07, 2008, 07:25:16 PM
Wonderful images mate!!!
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 08, 2008, 05:29:28 PM
The Buran sleeps in Cologne tonight  ;)
http://www.koeln.de/artikel/Koeln/Raumfaehre-Buran-passiert-am-Dienstag-Koeln-41471-1.html
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 08, 2008, 06:29:09 PM
So it is in your neighborhood :)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Letipapa on April 10, 2008, 05:45:21 PM
Well. I was not on forum a week or two and what I see, now when I am returned. :-jump :-jump :-obey :-tri :-tri :-salut :-OK :-eek :-joke :-clap :-clap :-clap
Wingman made a spectacular photos of fantastic airplanes. Man! I just glanced (I must go out now), saw that Swiss vampire (coloured like some exotic Triton or a snake). My sweet and holly Lord, I will enjoy tonight.
Wingman: by this important post I give You an award of airplane lover feel joy creator." :-green
You really made my day special. Can't wait to come back and see those photo's all and slowly.
Bravissimo! :-wave
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 10, 2008, 07:43:40 PM
Ok then its time to walk outside  :-green

Another highlight was to see the Phantom of Capt. Patrick Discoll
http://www.blueangels.org/History/Driscoll/Trap.html

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 10, 2008, 07:49:30 PM
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Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 10, 2008, 09:16:00 PM
Blue Angels Phantom is not every day scene!!! Excellent images mate  :-ok :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Letipapa on April 11, 2008, 12:52:46 AM
Huu, huuuuu! :-obey :-obey :-obey :-tri :-tri :-tri :-jump :-clap :-clap :-clap. Thank You Wingman81, thank You!!! Great photo's, great airplanes, big effort. :-wave
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 11, 2008, 01:07:33 PM
Next one is also very interesting. I tried to make some new perspective shots from the front. Whats your guess about this plane ?
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 11, 2008, 01:31:06 PM
Draken is very very interesting plane. I think Denmark still use it operationally.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 11, 2008, 03:08:55 PM
This Draken was used in Austrian Service. On one of the photos you can see the word "Gefahr" = "danger" written on the air intake.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 11, 2008, 03:59:39 PM
Yes I know about the nationality of this sample but did not know the meaning of inscription ;)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Letipapa on April 12, 2008, 11:43:35 PM
All are very good photo's, but those two from frontal and frontal and bellow position are fantastic. Bravo Wingman :-clap :-clap :-clap :-jump :-wave
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 13, 2008, 06:03:30 PM
Thanks mate  ;)
Next one's Hawker Hunter. I had not much time outside because it was starting to rain. Not even to take pictures of the U-Boat hehe. Last photo i took from top of the U-boat.

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 13, 2008, 06:10:21 PM
Next one was the hardest to get. It was in some fenced area and i had to mount between some old steamtrain wagons to get it  :-green
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 13, 2008, 07:08:32 PM
More then beautiful images ;) Hope you have more as well we are so greedy  :-roll  :-tri
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 13, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
Some more are coming...ill save my favorite plane for the last :)

Fairey Gannet AS Mk.4 Submarine Hunter
and a wreck...
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 14, 2008, 12:24:35 AM
Wreck is more then interesting! More info?
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 14, 2008, 12:03:47 PM
My guess would be that it is the front part of a Dornier 24 (there was no info marker), what is missing is the upper wing with the three propellers but the bow would certainly indicate that it is a waterplane and it would explain the strange short vestigal wings.

Edit:
Ok i found it. Its the wreck of a Do 24 that was recovered from the Müritzsee thats halfway between Berlin and Rostock (type Mueritzsee in google maps then you should find it). In Autumn 1944 the three machines that were stationed there were attacked by american fighters. Two did explode directly and the third one was sunk to the lake. Thats the one we have here.

Source: http://airshow24.com/tips_speyer.htm
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 14, 2008, 12:34:58 PM
Thats perfect info mate :)) We have publish some archive images of this plane on LLL before ;)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 14, 2008, 05:03:52 PM
MiG-21 in strange markings  :-cool

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 14, 2008, 06:30:51 PM
India...
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 16, 2008, 11:57:07 AM
F-101 Voodoo & Phantom
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 16, 2008, 12:18:00 PM
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MiG 23 in Luftwaffe marking
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Canadair CL-215 (Firefighter aircraft)
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Antonov 2
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: samuraj77 on April 16, 2008, 12:33:32 PM
Great post Wingman  :-ok
 :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 16, 2008, 12:48:59 PM
 :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 18, 2008, 01:16:35 PM
Next one please tell me what plane it is. I have no information. It was parked beside the giant Antonov but no explanations  ;) Maybe MiG-27?

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: samuraj77 on April 18, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
Yup it is MiG-27  :-ok
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 18, 2008, 04:19:54 PM
Yeeeaaahhh!!!!
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 21, 2008, 04:02:29 PM
Time for some new photos.
This old F-15 looks like it has seen better times long ago   ;)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 21, 2008, 04:58:58 PM
But placing of Boeing 747 on pole must is great engineering job ;)
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 21, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
Indeed they did a nice job :)
You can see here a short video. They had same problems like with Buran. The Rhine was at high watermark.
http://www.museumspeyer.de/000045A353F8_D4E3D357_00004DD9_0001.html
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 24, 2008, 07:53:24 PM
Time for my favourite plane in this museum:

Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 24, 2008, 07:56:48 PM
 :-love
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: No.1 on April 24, 2008, 07:58:15 PM
Hey- who could imagine that you like Soviet Frontovskoy Istrebitel  :-clap
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Wingman81 on April 24, 2008, 08:21:48 PM
Yes, i like many that have special rounded nose design or air intake in nose.

Heres another i found in Wikipedia. This is from former GDR Army.
Title: Re: Technikmuseum Speyer
Post by: Letipapa on April 28, 2008, 10:05:53 PM
Wonderfull Wingman81 :-clap :-clap :-clap :-obey :-ok
I like this Su-22 very much - my typical vision of a "warrior airplane". :-wave