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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Combat Warplanes => Topic started by: No.1 on May 31, 2009, 07:06:05 PM

Title: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on May 31, 2009, 07:06:05 PM
So I have start with new subject- naval fighter Supermarine Seafire...

 :-wave
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 01, 2009, 11:47:59 AM
And how it look like in the very start  :))
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 01, 2009, 08:40:33 PM
The Seafire F. Mk. III was the first true carrier adaptation of the Spitfire design. It was developed from the Seafire Mk. IIC, but incorporated manually folding wings allowing more of these aircraft to be spotted on deck or in the hangers below. Supermarine devised a system of two straight chordwise folds; a break was introduced immediately outboard of the wheel-wells from which the wing hinged upwards and slightly angled towards the fuselage. A second hinge at each wingtip join allowed the tips to fold down (when the wings were folded the wingtips were folded outwards). This version used the more powerful Merlin 55 (F. Mk. III and F.R. Mk III) or Merlin 55M (L. Mk. III), driving the same four-bladed propeller unit used by the IIC series; the Merlin 55M was another version of the Merlin modified to give maximum performance at low altitude. Other modifications that were made on the Spitfire made their way to the Seafire as well including a slim Aero-Vee air filter and six-stack ejector type exhausts. In addition the shorter barreled, lightweight Hispano Mk V cannon were introduced during production as were overload fuel tank fittings in the wings.

This Mark was built in larger numbers than any other Seafire variant; of the 1,220 manufactured Westland built 870 and Cunliffe Owen 350. In 1947 12 Mk IIIs were stripped of their naval equipment by Supermarine and delivered to the Irish Air Corps.

After the Mk III series the next Seafire variant to appear was the Seafire F. Mk XV, which was powered by a Griffon VI (single-stage supercharger, rated at 1,850 hp (1,379 kW) at 2,000 ft (610 ft) driving a 10 ft 5 in Rotol propeller. Designed in response to Specification N.4/43 this appeared to be a navalised Spitfire F. Mk XII; in reality the Mk XV was an amalgamation of a strengthened Seafire III airframe and wings with the wing fuel tanks, retractable tailwheel, larger elevators and broad-chord "pointed" rudder of the Spitfire VIII. In addition, the engine cowling was different to that of the Spitfire XII series, being secured with a larger number of fasteners and lacking the acorn shaped blister behind the spinner.

The final 30 Mk XVs were built with the blown "teardrop" cockpit canopy and cut down rear fuselage introduced on the Spitfire Mk XVI. On the first 50 aircraft manufactured by Cunliffe-Owen a heavier, strengthened A-frame arrestor hook was fitted to cope with the greater weight, On subsequent Mk XVs a new form of "sting" type arrestor hook was used; this version was attached to the reinforced rudder post at the rear of the fuselage and was housed in a fairing below the base of the shortened rudder. A vee-shaped guard forward of the tailwheel prevented arrestor wires getting tangled up with the tailwheel.

390 Seafire XVs were built by Cunliffe-Owen and Westland from late 1944. Six prototypes had been built by Supermarine.

Text - wikipedia.org
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 01, 2009, 08:43:38 PM
Thank you mate  :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 01, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
Here's a shots I took at Duxford a couple of years ago.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/matzos/DSC_8767.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/matzos/DSC_9106.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/matzos/DSC_9117.jpg)
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 01, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
This one is for sure very interesting! Do you have larger sample?
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 01, 2009, 10:09:30 PM
This one is for sure very interesting! Do you have larger sample?

I have about 12 images all over 40000 pxs (Approx 4Mb) each
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 01, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
srecko.warplane@gmail.com can swallow this :)
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 01, 2009, 10:26:02 PM
Ok my friend, I will send you the best one  :-wave
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: samuraj77 on June 02, 2009, 12:26:53 AM
Amazing photos Mick
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 02, 2009, 02:11:21 PM
More or less this side is made, just few of details.
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: Paul Andrews on June 02, 2009, 02:37:20 PM
Beautiful pictures. :D
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 02, 2009, 06:07:05 PM
Yes they are and if this drwings is good I can only grant thanks to invaluable help from my forum friends. Here in attach another progress sample and this one have complete layout definition. Now it is time for variatns as well hours of eye loosing while watching on details on archive images to get every possible detail in place.

 ;)
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: Letipapa on June 03, 2009, 10:45:59 AM
Wonderful :-ok :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 03, 2009, 11:03:40 PM
No.1,

Here's a link to a site with a lot of close-ups of SX336

http://spitfiresite.com/photos/galleries/seafire-xvii-sx336/index.htm  :-wave
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 03, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
I desperately need F. 47 close ups and if any available about the F.46...
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 05, 2009, 04:37:36 PM
Side views are done but maybe some corrections will be made.
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 05, 2009, 08:46:27 PM
Sorry not very clear but Seafies F46 & 47, the last one is a F46 in flight
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 06, 2009, 07:22:17 AM
Again not very clear - an F46

Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 07:44:40 AM
Clear or not- this images are really helpfull!! On the images above I have note differnet position of the navigation light on rudder and at this bottom image is clarly seen something very dark under the wing, small size, as well drop tank. Any additional info? You cant believe how hard is to get F. 46 images. Only 24 was in service.
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 06, 2009, 08:17:08 AM
The F47 could be fitted with either two under-wing 22 gallon fuels tanks or a 90 gallon centre-line tank. For my interest, they could also be fitted with a F.24 vertical and oblique recce cameras, somrthing I did not know  :-think
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 10:04:14 AM
Wow- this models 47 also have something under the wing!
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 06, 2009, 10:20:55 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 10:25:57 AM
Yes but look at please at something small and square near the fuel tank. You will see also this one previous images you post. I cant get what is this :(
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 06, 2009, 10:53:58 AM
I hope his is what you are after. I cannot get the detail any better. I will keep looking for other images  ;)
Could they be for the two 500lb bombs it could carry  :-think
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 12:27:55 PM
I have just tired of few hours of fight with drawings... here you are something...

mfg- thank you for material, I will make something from this. Any source of bluprints for those bombs and fuel tanks?
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 01:46:40 PM
Here you are- principal definition of the top and bottom view.

 :-wave
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 06, 2009, 03:12:37 PM
Found this on the web

"The last version of the Seafire, the Mk 47, saw action in Korea with No 800 Sqn flying their last missions in 1950. These aircraft were able to carry three 500 lb bombs or eight rockets and were 100 mph faster and 5000 lbs heavier than the first versions of the Seafire."

Also could they be mounting points for the under-wing drop tank?  :-think

 
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 03:21:46 PM
In this moment everything is possible.
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2009, 05:53:57 PM
Access panel work...
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 07, 2009, 11:40:04 AM
Panels up and panels down  :-razz But I have find out the designation for the outer 'things' under the wings- they are for rockets!
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 08, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
Just to make final check out and add some text and this is ready for print.... enter today  :-dal
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 08, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
This is very final  :-razz Thank you all for kind help and attention  :-clap  :-ok
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: mfg495 on June 08, 2009, 09:47:01 PM
Great work my friend  :-ok :-ok
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: Letipapa on June 09, 2009, 10:08:32 PM
Great, man, great! :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-ok
Title: Re: Supermarine Seafire
Post by: No.1 on June 09, 2009, 10:15:27 PM
Thank you friends!!! I have also received email from my UK boss and he is also amazed with image. Spitfire is British icon and it is my great pleasure that I get chance to make its drawings!

 :-ok