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Title: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 08, 2011, 06:24:13 PM
I am a bit lazy to make some intro text so I will take part of text from Wiki...

The North American F-86 Sabre (sometimes called the Sabrejet) was a transonic jet fighter aircraft. Produced by North American Aviation, the Sabre is best known as America's first swept wing fighter which could counter the similarly-winged Soviet MiG-15 in high speed dogfights over the skies of the Korean War. Considered one of the best and most important fighter aircraft in the Korean War, the F-86 is also rated highly in comparison with fighters of other eras.[3] Although it was developed in the late 1940s and was outdated by the end of the 1950s, the Sabre proved versatile and adaptable, and continued as a front-line fighter in numerous air forces until the last active operational examples were retired by the Bolivian Air Force in 1994.

Its success led to an extended production run of more than 7,800 aircraft between 1949 and 1956, in the United States, Japan and Italy. Variants were built in Canada and Australia. The Canadair Sabre added another 1,815 airframes, and the significantly redesigned CAC Sabre (sometimes known as the Avon Sabre or CAC CA-27), had a production run of 112. It was by far the most-produced Western jet fighter, with total production of all variants at 9,860 units.


First set of images is A model :))
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 08, 2011, 06:36:15 PM
This will be great! :-jump
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Ernie on December 08, 2011, 11:44:48 PM
Excellent.... I have three Sabres I would like to build this winter, an F-86L, an Mk.4 (basically by swaping the wings from an F-40 and a D), and a Navy Sabre drone :-jump :-clap. Then I will be all Sabred out......except prehaps for the one the one the Soviets recovered in Korea.
Ernie
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 09, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
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except prehaps for the one the one the Soviets recovered in Korea.
I would like to see that. Any images? :-think
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Ernie on December 09, 2011, 12:18:59 PM
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except prehaps for the one the one the Soviets recovered in Korea.
I would like to see that. Any images? :-think

I will have to look this weekend for the article, it never carried Soviet markings I am almost positive. It crashed relatively intact in a tidal flat. The Soviets were actively trying to force an F-86 down so they could study it, if I remember correctly, they dispatched a team of pilots to Korea just for thsi purpose. I beleive the markings were similar to the F-86A pic. above (2nd row, 3rd pic.).
Ernie
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 10, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
From my side more progress on D model ;)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Ernie on December 10, 2011, 12:05:07 PM
Nice pics. I like F-86D :-ok
Ernie
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 10, 2011, 12:36:23 PM
Good! Very good. No doubt that you have huge collection photos of F-86 and we will see more. ;)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Ernie on December 11, 2011, 06:25:43 AM
Any F-86L instrument panel / cockpit photos by chance??
Ernie
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 11, 2011, 06:49:48 AM
Will see, I am not sure :(
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Ernie on December 11, 2011, 01:49:42 PM
Awesome! Thank you :-ok
Ernie
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 13, 2011, 08:32:11 PM
E model
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 13, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Nice! ;)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 13, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
One large Yugoslav sample ;)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 14, 2011, 12:08:50 AM
This is great!!!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Second Air Force on December 16, 2011, 03:19:39 AM
I love that last photo--I never thought I'd see a jet fighter that made a Sabre look big! :-cool

When I was planning on restoring the F-86F in Fort Worth I was always impressed with how compact and small they were able to make the airplane. Getting the fuselage fuel cell out was going to be a real problem as North American almost built the airplane around it!
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 20, 2011, 04:36:37 PM
As well you mention F model, here you are F  :-razz
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 20, 2011, 05:10:44 PM
 :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Second Air Force on December 20, 2011, 11:28:37 PM
I'll see if I can find some photos of "my" Sabre and put them up. It served only a short time with the USAF and then most of its life in Venezuela and Bolivia. When I was planning to refurbish it it was still in the Bolivian camouflage scheme and I rather liked it.
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 27, 2011, 07:20:35 AM
H model
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Ernie on December 27, 2011, 12:56:15 PM
Very Nice pics! :-ok
Ernie
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 27, 2011, 04:08:55 PM
Good! :-clap
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 29, 2011, 09:09:39 AM
Various samples :)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on December 29, 2011, 09:12:02 AM
In various conditions... :-roll
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on December 29, 2011, 09:12:47 AM
And the final images- prototype  :-clap
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Jicehem on January 07, 2012, 09:08:15 AM
And the final images- prototype  :-clap

Hi mate,  :-salut :-salut

Very interesting collection of photographs.
When she flew on 1 october 1947 with "PU-597" buzz-number she was still XP-86A... She became XF-86A after June 1948.
I see that French, German and Italian F-86K are missing...

Cheers,
Jicehem  :-wave :-wave
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on January 07, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
Sorry for missing images, simply did not have time to get images from boxes and get to friend to scan them and also did not search other folders with scanned images. If any of you like to add any new material just go ahead. By the way- in any case I miss French machines so your assistance could be of great value ;)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Jicehem on January 07, 2012, 09:14:10 PM
Hi everybody,  :-salut :-salut

Some pictures of French F-86K :
1) North American F-86K Sabre, sn 55-4860, 13-QV of EC 1/13 "Artois" in 1957. One of the few, if not the sole to have received complete markings with unit insignas. The only one to have not been modified with the span-extended wing of the F-86F-40 (and consequently F-86L) :  
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/north_14.jpg)

North American F-86K Sabre, sn 55-4854, 13-PX of EC 2/13 "Alpes" :
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/north_15.jpg)

North American F-86K Sabre, 55-4858, 13-PN of EC 2/13 "Alpes" with the new wing :
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/north_16.jpg)

North American F-86K Sabre, sn 55-4862, 13-QY of EC 1/13 "Artois" also with the new wing :
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/north_17.jpg)

Components were manufactured by FIAT in Italy and planes were assembled in France. After retirement of the "Armée de l'Air" 12 of the 60 F-86K were given the Italian Air Force,  12 returned to the USA and 8 having been lost in accidents, the remaining were destroyed with explosives... but one preserved fot the Musée de l'Air at Le Bourget near Paris.
 
Cheers,
Jicehem  :-wave :-wave
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on January 07, 2012, 10:00:10 PM
Excellent images and historic data :-ok
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on January 07, 2012, 11:31:44 PM
Just to add few more info. First at all our small album on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150319254187759.341245.308234397758

And then two images from Nico  :-ok
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on January 08, 2012, 08:06:45 PM
Excellent photos from all of you!!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Second Air Force on January 09, 2012, 12:55:51 AM
Here are four pictures of the F-86F-40 that was under my care for a short time a few years ago. I took these photos during an inspection that I did with a friend who maintains a flying Sabre, with the idea of evaluating whether the little fighter could again be made airworthy. It would be relatively easy to make this a flyer again--the only real hurdle would be a lot of money to make it happen. This is s/n 52-4689 and originally was built with the un-slatted wing. At some point, probably before it went to Venezuela, it got the slatted wing that it has today.

After a short time with the USAF the airplane was sent to Venezuela and finally flew with the Bolivian Air Arm until it was retired in the early nineties. This was one of the last Sabrejets in front-line service and was still wearing its last camouflage paint from Bolivian service. We are no longer affiliated with the museum that owns it so I don't know what is going to happen to it now.
First two photos shows the airplane all stripped down for our inspection:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_3700.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_3702-1.jpg)

The Bolivian ship number and unit insignia:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_3699.jpg)

The Venezuelan roundel is showing through on both lower wing panels. The Bolivian painters appear to have simply scuffed up the Venezuelan paint job and sprayed the camouflage right on top:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_3677.jpg)

One of these days I'm going to build a model of this little fighter in its Bolivian camouflage--I had grown to really like the idea of restoring it in exactly this scheme as a gesture of respect to the maintainers and flyers in Bolivia that kept the airplane in such good shape all those years. Of course, the others at the museum were adamant that it be NMF and in USAF colors, even though it was only active in the U.S. for a very short time. Oh, well---it isn't any concern of mine anymore! ;)
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Sall on January 09, 2012, 02:34:10 AM
Oh, very nice photos. There are some very interesting access panels! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: Second Air Force on January 09, 2012, 03:06:03 AM
Yep, Ellen and I opened up pretty much every panel on the airplane for the inspection. It's really a pretty nice machine as far as access goes. About the only thing we didn't do was remove the aft fuselage to inspect the attachment fittings. The friend who came down to look the airplane over with me was shocked to see how original everything is on this Sabre. Most civilian operated F-86s don't have gun mounts, ammunition cans, etc. installed anymore. This one is virtually unmolested and is pretty much as it was when the FAB retired it.
Title: Re: North American F-86 Sabre
Post by: No.1 on January 09, 2012, 06:59:26 AM
This is very interesting with its three colors on top side. And must say it is very inspiration subject :-ok