LetLetLet ~ Warplanes
Let Let Let - Warplanes => Combat Warplanes => Topic started by: santynus on September 03, 2007, 07:37:14 PM
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Hi All :) I need help :-help I search one good 3 view draw about the Aermacchi M 416 / Fokker S11 Instructor
this is the first aircraft I can touch in my live I remeber in my old hi-school we have this aircraft in a big room full of dust... :(
now they have out of the school other three gates guardian one Macchi MB326 one Piaggio P166 and one old Beechcraft C-45 if I can I want to make some good photo about this three subjects ;)
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Kon. Marine- well we are all lucky that we have here Nico Braas and hope he could manage something valuable for you :-wave
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The S-11 is a machine with a very interesting history. It was licence manufactured both in Italy and Brazil and even served in the Israelian air force. It was a very sturdy plane and even today a number is still flying around.
Here is the 3-view drawing of the production version. There were various versions of the prototype including one with a faired-over cockpit section and just 1 seat with a small windscreen!
There is a monograph on the S-11, but this is in Dutch!
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thank you so much Nico for this interesting draw :-obey :-ok :-wave
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I just checked two photo albums with S-11/S-12 photos from a Fokker photo collection I purchased some ten years ago.
Since the S-11 is a production model and I have no particular affinity with this plane I never even looked into these two books. I was a little bit amazed to find out that I have more than 400 photos, not only of practically all S-11's built by Fokker, but also a number of quite unknown shots from Brazilian licence manufacturing. I also seem to have some hundred photos of the mock-up and the prototype in various stages of construction! I am still amazed to find out I have all this stuff!!
If anyone out there is interested I would be more than pleased to place here some of the most interesting and nicest shots.
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Fire at will Nico... 400 images- nice for the book, isn't it :-razz
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Here is the first 'wished I was there' photo showing some 'goodies' at the Fokker hanger at Schiphol airport.
Except for the Italian and Israelian S-11 we see at the right side also at last the S-14 L-5 just to prove it existed.
399 more to go.......................(just kidding!)
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very nice photos :-clap I'm really curious to see the others 399 ;)
by the way if you can could you please send me via email one Hi-res copy of the S11 3 view draw? :-green
thank you in advance :-wave
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Meteor sitting at the back of the hanger, great image :-ok
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So, let's continue with the S-11 story!
Here are two further images. The first one shows the first public release of an artist impression that was published in the
aviation magazine VLIEGWERELD of 1 December 1946.
The next photo shows the quite basic and apparently low-budget mock-up of the S-11.
Three Fokker emplyees are testing the fit of the cockpit interor! The photo was taken on 26 February 1947.
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That small and three seater- I begin to be more interest in this type :-ok
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very interesting photo Nico :-clap :-wave
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Here are two more shots:
The first one shows the S-11 fuselage of the prototype being sandblasted. It was taken on 3 September 1947.
The second photo shows the S-11 prototype under construction with a view on the engine installation. It was taken on 6 November 1947, some 1.5 month before its first flight.
More to follow................
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The update for today:
-The S-11 prototype PH-NBE during its firs engine testing on the (very!) small quay of the old Fokker plant at the Papaverweg in Amsterdam-Noord. Photo was taken on 9 December 1947.
-PH-NBE at Schiphol on the day of its first flight (18 December 1947).
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Cockpit area look somehow like the Yugoslav "Trojka" which was made later. It look like this plane have nice flying performance and good handling.
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interesting see in this photos the simple and strong internal structure and the elegance of the aircraft :)
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Here is more on the S-11:
-Because the original PH-NBE prototype showed to have very unfavourable flight characteristics a large modification test program was set up. We see here the PH-NBE on the Schiphol platform with an enlarged and reshaped canopy and a modified tail. Photo was taken on 29 May 1948
-The second machine PH-NBF was used for airflow investigations around the fuselage. For this purpose the canopy section was faired over with only a small windscreen left. Photo dates from 7 June 1948.
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Nico- main landing gear look like the nose leg of some other airplane?
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No, maingear was not a nose wheel from Dowty as used on the Gloster Meteor as it looks! The u/c legs were originally made in France, but since they showed to have some weakness they were replaced by legs produced in the Netherlands. Those u/c legs always were a weak point since they were sensitive to lateral force making crosswind landings not very desirable!
Here are two shots of the final version of the first prototype.
First we see it in KLu colours with registration E-2 (taken on 28 September 1948) during transport by barge from the Amsterdam-Noord plant to Schiphol.
The second picture shows the plane as PH-NBE again for demonstration purposes. Pilot in l.h. seat is Fokker test pilot Gerben Sonderman. Later, he crashed fatally in the USA with Fokker S-14 L-4.
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Santino- why don't you made one color profile of this airplane :) Nico provide excellent reference material :-ok
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of course No.1 I want to make it :) I need only a little bit of free time... :-roll I'm really busy at this time... :(
very nice photos Nico :-clap :-wave
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Let's conclude my 'photo session' of the S-11.
Think placing the other 390 is just a little bit over the top!
Attached one last shot of the model kits I have.
As you see there are three different kits: one from Artiplast (1960 or so!) and two other from Smer.
However, it is all the same product from the same molds!
And NO, I do NOT offer the kits for sale!
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Hi all :)
I begin to work on the color profile :-green
I need help :-help...
I search more info about the main undercarriage... I try to make something but I'm not sure about it... :-think
if is possible one photos walkaround for see more details about thi interesting aircraft ;)
thank you in advance
cheers
Santino
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This look really nice and when it resize it will look perfect. About walaround... you are in Italy and this aircraft are used in Italy- can you manage that type of images :-think
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I found some good photo and I change a little bit the undercarriage...
this is the link
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?&aircraft_genericsearch=Fokker%20S-11%20Instructor&nr_of_rows=48&first_this_page=0&page_limit=15&sort_order=photo_id+DESC&nr_pages=4
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I found other three interesting Fokker S11 Web Pages :-green
http://www.fokkerfour.nl/nederlands/index.htm
http://www.glue-it.co.uk/aircraft/fokker/s11/index.html
http://fokkervliegen.nl/vliegtuig.htm
cheers :-wave
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Very good links with much of S-11 still flyng. But as I could note here is best selection of archive images :))